“I see nothing but rapid development from 2020 onwards."
What’s your backstory?
My life has been and taken me all over the place. I started my entrepreneurial journey, let’s say, when I was 15 buying spare computer parts from police auctions, building them into full units and selling them around the local area.
I ended up starting a computer science degree but dropping out after 2 years because I grew impatient and wanted to do something ‘real world’. I ended up in London working in sales for various digital media companies before getting tired of that and going backpacking.
After one year, first in Asia, the Europe I ended up in Budapest, liked it and stayed, setting up a lead generation business for language teachers when I failed myself to become one. It was through that I first learned to use Zapier - and from there I signed up to Upwork, first looking for work as a writer, but then switching to Zapier when I found the market too congested.
Things took off quickly from there and in 2019 I founded my Zapier agency Luhhu.
How technical are you? What tools did you use before no-code e.g Excel?
I’ve already been pretty technical and feel I have the ability to work out how to use most pieces of software - mostly by playing around with them until it actually does what I want.
"It’s been the most financially prosperous thing I’ve ever done."
Have you ever tried learning to code? If so, what happened?
Coding was a big part of the 2 years I spent on the computer science degree and a big part of the reason I dropped out. Acquiring language skills aren’t my jam and I felt I’d be more interested in the business and sales side of IT, hence why I dropped out.
How did you first get into no-code? What’s your favourite tool and why? How long did it take you to learn it?
I learned to use Zapier while building my lead generation business and went on to learn Bubble for the same reason. From there I learned about Integromat and Airtable and have dabbled with various tools since. Some of the coding concepts picked up on my computer science degree have helped with the learning curve of these tools - I can think of app building in a systematic, conceptual way.
How has no-code enhanced your skillsets? Do you use it at work or in your spare time?
Well approaching problem solving in a systematic, conceptual way is a skill in itself and can always be improved upon. Also the aspect of no-code that allows you to bring an MVP to market much quicker is great because it gives me the chance to improve my business skills with a real product.
What’s your normal day like? How many hours do you spend doing no-code?
I try to get up early, spend a few hours in the morning checking emails and building zaps for clients - followed by lunch and a bit of chill time. In the afternoon it’s more client work or time spent developing the business itself.
What impact has it had on your career (or life)?
Being a Zapier expert and being able to build an agency around it has given me more fulfillment and access to a great community of people than anything else ever has. It’s also been the most financially prosperous thing I’ve ever done.
“Get involved! Pick the first tool you find - or the one that seems most interesting to you - and start building stuff."
What are your business plans for the future? Is it just you or do you have co-founders or a team?
Right now, it’s me and two other people I build zaps with. That’s comfortable for now, but workload is growing month by month and I’d like to expand the team.
I’d also like to invest some of our earnings into developing resources for people that want to improve their Zapier skills but don’t want to do that via a consulting arrangement.
What are your thoughts on the no-code movement in general? Where do you think it’s going? What do you see as the barriers that might slow its adoption?
I see nothing but rapid development from 2020 onwards. We’ve got a stable of great and improving tools that cover pretty much all the areas of front and back-end development - and as it stands there are very few business models you couldn’t build out with nocode.
The community grows stronger every day as well, and with it the amount of resources available. This means more and more people getting involved bringing their creativity and ideas to the mix. I actually see very few barriers right now so long as the mood of the movement can be kept positive.
What advice would you give to people who are just discovering no-code?
Get involved! Pick the first tool you find - or the one that seems most interesting to you - and start building stuff. Google for resources and push yourself to try more complex stuff. When you feel comfortable, try finding a problem in your real life and create a solution with nocode. If it’s a real problem and a good solution - try selling it!
What or who inspires you?
No one in particular other than the dozens of interesting people I find on Twitter every day pushing interesting projects.